you say i think they are going after obama. i just want them to say the idea of them going after obama, that doesn't make me happy at all. i have to do my background, but i am a big fan of holding barack obama accountable. >> and impeaching him. >> i was going to ask, do you think he will end up being impeached over this? >> of course. >> and it is -- and if not, he should be. that goes without saying. >> agree to agree. >> and sandra, you make an interesting point about susan rice as well. you say should she continue in this role basically if she was being a puppet or a parrot that was parroting talking points, but in reality, wasn't that what hillary clinton was doing as well? >> that i will leave up to one's opinion. but at the end of the day, i think if somebody is going to hold a position of power they should have authority. she should have the authority and be able to decide for herself what information she is putting across the air waves. that influences society. that influences our country. she might as well be a spokes